/Our Lady/

I'm Episcopalian/Anglican and literally don't understand why other prots say Mariology is bad.

What? It was taken as granted. Lol
Yeah the Trinity wasn't defined as clearly as in Nicea but everyone believe in that.
Even roman historians write that the stupid and supersticious Christians worshipped Christ as their God.

Besides the Gospel of John was the last nail in the coffin for some heretics who claimed Jesus want God in the end of the 1st century.
There were more heretics who believe Jesus didn't come in mortal flesh then denying his divinity.

The Bible itself has God telling the Israelis to build an ark and to make two golden angels. Was this idolatrous? Of course not. To fashion an idol is to make something that is the target of worship and not simply an adornment, a remembrance or something that exalts the good examples of the faith. I think that you're overreaching there, friend.


Right now the dogma states that three people never sin:the Lord Our God Jesus Christ of course, Mary the Blessed Mother which was the blessed vessel and for some reason John the Baptist (which Our Lord said was the greatest among all men). I don't know if there were any other sinless people but the Catholic Church only states the dogma about certain people. There have been saintly people that have walked this world that have not been elevated by the Catholic Church or any other church, there is not one single church that claims to know all the mysteries of the faith and the Catholic Church is not an exception.

About John the Baptists, unlike Our Lady which our Lord preserved her from sin from the moment of her conception, St. John the Baptist was saved from sin when Mary visited Elizabeth and the baby John got all happy to receive the visit of his cousin as far as I know.

i will never understand your myth(e)ology, bro
but i still love you

What are you even talking about? I have never heard this before

Yeah, I was stunned when I learned about it too. It makes sense because it affirms the sacrament of baptism but it's one of those weird things about the Catholic dogma.

it understandable that you might think Protestants 'irreverent'

that's because you practice forms of veneration to saints that they think to be akin to worship, and Mary the mother of Jesus is held in the highest esteem; receiving the most of this praise

the problem is, protestants don't think anyone – anyone – should be venerated in any way, other than God; with all praise and recognition of grace only being addressed to Him

now reading the prayers said to Mary, we can easily see her being given such titles as Queen of Heaven, Gate of Heaven, Comfort of the Afflicted or Refuge of Sinners

protestants think that the Scripture points to God having sole right to such titles, and thus they cannot possibly ascribe them to that very blessed lady

but this returns us to the question of why you think prots are irreverent of Mary, and i think it's more than understandable if you have been raised to see Mary as befitting such names; to then think anyone who doesn't similarly revere her as blasphemous

So Catholics believe that because Jesus was conceived without sin, Mary must have never sinned?