From Orthodoxy to Catholicism

What would the point of excommunication be if church was compulsory?

It would make it essential for you to repent

That's just not consistent with the Bible.
Christianity is a voluntary exercise. Salvation is a gift that you can choose to deny.
I think you're a retard if you're a drunk, or if you don't wear your seatbelt, but it's not my job to stop you by force.

lol evangelicals are the used car salesmen of Christianity, no one actually is saved by you. Getting people to say the sinners prayer doesn't save them and it isn't fulfilling the mandate to baptize and make disciples of all nations. The whole degenerate state of the west is a consequence of your revolutionary philosophy.

Historically the conversion of a nation takes place with saints at the head. The Church as an organization doesn't do much of anything. There isn't much use complaining about how little the Church does, because you are a part of it. Orthodoxy is new in the west and doesn't have the social capital of either Catholicism or Protestantism. These new movements require passionaries who are willing to sacrifice their own immediate comfort for the good of the future, can you do it? if not then it isn't much use complaining about how little the Church does just stay and try and support those who can. What exactly do you expect the Church to do anyway? who exactly in the west in converting to Catholicism and Protestantism? the answer is no one, Orthodoxy is actually making converts our numbers are going down because cradles become americanized and leave and i can tell you that if this whole mess with Constantinople leads to Russia taking a more leading role we will see dramtic changes. Please tell me what exactly it is you think the Church should do?

The Bible is a tool for the church to use, and it has a monopoly on what the Bible says. I'd never be a protestant and I don't think I have anything to gain from further discussion with you.

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First, this is a prot argument.

Second, this is where diving into the original text helps. "Know" in that verse (greek: eideitei) does not mean absolute metaphysical certainty. It's more akin to "knowing" that you're getting off work at 5PM or "knowing" that you're going to ace an exam. Strong belief and absolute assuredness are two different things. Absolute assuredness would also render Philippians 2:12 moot. (Work out salvation with fear and trembling…)

Most self-styled Christians probably have that absolute assuredness.. and they're in for an unpleasant surprise if Matthew 7:13 (narrow is the path…) is anything to go by.

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I'd love to see that graph broken down by regular (mass/sunday services/etc) attendance.

Sure is protty around here today