Relax, dude. And stop blaming the Jews for this one. It has always been necessary for one to be married by the state before one can get married in the Church. In fact the service of marriage did not exist until Christianity and the Byzantine Empire were close enough. Before then you got married by the state then the sacrament of marriage was simply receiving communion at the next liturgy together.
It is true that today, from the state's point of view, your religious marriage is just a funny ceremony, but why do you care what the state thinks? What the Church thinks and has always thought is that you cannot be married in the Church if the state doesn't legally recognize you as married first.
Joseph Rivera
Its just a check to prevent polygamy and irregularities, like being legally married with somone, and religiously married with another.
Joshua Perry
Wtf? It's a joke right? Oh come on.
Michael Gray
It's a crime in France and could lead you one year in prison if you do it, because "paternity is a social construct".
Portugal is still a little bit christian thanks to the New State of Salazar but give it time and it will be like everywhere else. I also said Switzerland, it's not just France.
I've heard this argument "it's order not to allow muslims to have several women !". This is coward as winnie the pooh. We are ready to let ourselves to have the civil marriage imposed on Christians, because savages from outside marry like that? Just like how in the name of "counter-terrorism", we are ready to give up all our right and to willingly be spied massively by our government? That's intolerable.
Austin Wright
Did you ignore my post on purpose? As far as Christianity is concerned, civil marriage has always been obligatory. This isn't a peculiarity that was introduced by your country. The only exceptions I know of is when one lives in one of these tiny Russian villages where there isn't even a mayor to perform legal marriage.
Wyatt Sanchez
But why wtf I can't just… winnie the pooh user Jesus Christ what happened since 1789. May Salazar rest in peace, even though the commies have partially sucedded destroying this country Our Lady said the dogma of Faith wouldn't fall in Portugal. But yeah we are approaching European levels quite fast. Its now forbidden to teach kids in kitten garden that Christmas is about Christ and forbidden to use decorations such as bells and anything related to the real Christmas. Which is funny because they are fighting the air since there's not even one percent of other religions. After the 88% or something of catholics the next religion is Islam with a ridiculus 0.3%. That's intolerable. See if you're eligible for a secret marriage. Either way don't you guys get some tax benefits if you are married to promote natality or something?
Aiden Scott
Well I live in Poland and if I understand it correctly you can go to catholic church for marriage first and when it's done you're also considered civilly married too, so no other ceremony is necessary.
Noah Morales
Besides how people have shown you that it predates the Enlightenment by a millenium and a half, where is the potential for abuse, in this specific instance? Even the most rabidly anti-christian regimes have allowed us to marry civily, and if by absurd, they didnt, we could suspend this requirment, if needed.
Ryder Lee
The State and the Church were united, thus marrying civilly wasn't a problem, because the values of marriage were pretty much the same as the Church, meaning that you pretty much married in the Church. But know, thanks to the separation of the Church thanks to the enlightenment activists, they have revolutionized marriage and turned it upside-down, making it a satanic parody of a sacred union, we have this satanic parody being imposed on us by this secular states, and all their satanic degenerate values of modern "marriage" with it. And they claim that State and Church have to be separated, in the name of religious freedom but yet, they impose their satanic civil parody of marriage on us as the main form of marriage on everyone, and so much for freedom of faith. Marriage ought to be a religious act first and foremost and ought to be considered as such. What happenend was a hijacking of the sacred church marriage by (((enlightenment))) activists who do everything in their power to attack,weaken,undermine, parody it to make un-sacred (gay marriage……),…And that's why this is a problem, because this satanic atheist version of marriage as been imposed on everyone by people who do everything they can to destroy this very marriage. When people married in the state when the State and the Church were united, you were indeed marrying in the Church first and foremost, and the sacred marriage and it's sacred values where sensibly the same in the civil marriage.
Jace Taylor
Thats like saying we need to ban Christmas as a public holiday, and its imposed on us, because modern Christmas got infected by consumerism.
