As a Christian, you should be trying to surrender more control to God, not trying to wrest it from Him. In Scripture, dreams are very often a medium through which God communicates with His servants; do you think that God is more likely to grant you such experiences while you're rebelliously trying to control your dreams, or while you're surrendering them as is natural? Even supposing God never chooses to directly communicate with you in a dream, even in those dreams shaped by ordinary natural law, it's your brain trying to rest and reorganize after a long day of thinking, and very often the subconscious visualizations that naturally arise from this process can teach you something valuable about yourself. I don't think there's necessarily anything occultic or spiritual about controlling your own dreams, but it's simply not good practice to be trying to subjugate your ubconscious life to your own will when what you should be doing is trying to relenquish your conscious life to God's will.
Christian Lucid Dreaming
What is it with the /x/-tier threads lately? Did /fringe/ break open and release its drivel?
2 years ago I was realy into lucid dreaming so i can tell you one thing : its not going to bring you closer to God.
Dont do this trust me , most of my worst, weird,cursed and wicked nightmares happend during lucid dreaming.
after waking up I wanted to hang my self, they were so much cursed and I was cursed by them.
its going draw you further from God. Do not do this. Lucid dreaming is the Gateway into the occult.stop caring about drams in general ,if they aren't from God
they don't matter.
tbh I don't see any reason why people do it. Having control over your dreams actually pretty boring; it happened to me once in my life.
Now, the last time I had a dream was a while ago, like maybe a year or two it feels. I miss my dreams, but then again, some of my dreams temped me sexually. Though wet dreams aren't a sin, in the waking world my mind might try to use the memories of the dream to tempt me.
Ehh… kinda bad advice, but I seem to always lucid dream after I ejaculate. I mostly fap once a month. Usually before I fall asleep.
I also find myself lucid dreaming whenever I am doing nofap. Maybe 3 or 4 days into it when the need and want for sex intensifies. The more agitated I'd be that day or before bed, the higher the chance the dream would be vivid. Like, actually seeing clearly what I'm dreaming and even interacting with the dream world itself. Hearing music and sometimes waking up remembering what I heard and wanting to re-create what I heard before it disappears from my mind (I make beats for fun). Girls and women letting me touch them sexually and non sexually and I feel so confident in the dream, not nervous at all like irl. Of course I have self control during this… if I dont then sometimes I'd wake up with wet sheets. I think the sexual dreams are more of a demonic attack than a good thing tho. Which is why I self control during it.
I’ve had spirits haunting me ever since I was a kid. I didn’t do any occult practice. It started when I first started fapping though so maybe there is something sinister to it.
I mean that's things that happen normally when sleeping. It's not under my control. It has probably something to do withe the phases of sleep.
Now if you're talking about doing that on purpose like astral projection and new age shit then its a sin.
I would not actively seek for them, but if they happen, I doubt they should have a negative impact on you.
In the last one I had I fainted and hit my head on a corner after my boss fired me in dream land…
You say that lucid dreaming is a tool one uses to achieve the goal of a successful astral projection. It sounds like what you're saying is that one could lucid dream without the goal of astral projection. One could just be lucid in their dream and do nothing further.
My interest in lucid dreaming stems from a desire to be more productive. In that sense, your argument could be akin to "Rather than trying to take control of your farm so it yields more crop, you should surrender control of it to God" which is then proceeded by doing nothing about the farm and then not having the sufficient yields to feed your family.
If I am to lucid dream, I am to do so under the supervision of St. Raphael, the Saint that oversees dreams. I'm certain I would not have any bizarre, unusual dreams. Plus, I discovered another trick recently. When I was antagonised in my dream by a character, I threw a rosary around its neck. Then it stopped. I don't think it's written that the rosary has such uses but nonetheless, it seems to work like this too.
You're all describing involountary lucid dreams. I speak of actively pursuing them.
You believe that deliberate that deliberate lucid dreaming is a sin. Alright. Just to clarify, I have no intention of astral projection. I don't want to go on some journey and meet "spirits" (read: demons) or anything of that sort. I just want to make use of my time asleep and read books.
I appreciate the advice. Thanks.