Sounds like what they did in 2012. The progs aren't known for allowing votes to stand. They just throw a tantrum until the whole thing is over with and go home with their ball. And nothing changes.
United Methodists Reject One Church Plan
Imagine being this delusional. What part of
You don't even know how dangerous it is. Before the One Church plan was defeated, an amendment was put forward that would bar gays who were in even worse relationships than just being homosexual. I'm sorry, I don't recall the exact wording of it and can't find a transcript of the meeting at the moment, but that caused an uproar and the amendment didn't pass.
So it would have been OK for gays to be promiscuous? Sounds about right.
I remember when Andrew Sullivan said that monogamy to a gay male couple meant that you share your side partner with your main partner.
Honestly, I'm glad I can find discussions like this.
I've been wanting to talk about this all day, but don't know anyone who wouldn't immediately assume I want to ban same sex marriage.
After the accusations came out on rampant homosexuality being the problem with the Catholic clergy (from Vigano's letter to "In the Closet of the Vatican"), I've been more and more hesitant about the One Church Plan. I'd be perfectly fine with a split, I'd rather see both sides take their stance and move on.
I'm Methodist in a liberal community though, so it's guaranteed to come up this Sunday.
I left my UMC church because it was too progressive for my tastes. The worship leader was this weasily soy boy who had to sprinkle left-wing propaganda between songs and I grew tired of it. So I hit the road.
My brother, I'm definitely praying for you. I was Methodist once but like I left the church because the pastor used the pulpit exclusively to spread propaganda. My last service there came when she gave a hypocritical sermon and made half of it about how great she is for supporting gays. She made references to profane language during it as well and I couldn't take it.
Brother, the Orthodox Church would accept you with open arms if you decide to leave as well. But if you stay, remain firm and don't let those communists corrupt the faithful.
Please report back to us with what you hear on Sunday! I'm almost curious enough to go back to my old church but I don't want to go to another service there, as I said before.
I think I found the problem, user.
I'm still a little new, so bear with me if I mess up.
Our sermons aren't really propagandized, they're just insanely boring. It used to be great. Pastor would explain the deeper meaning of a parable or explore a Bible story. Now he does "sermon series," where it's three weeks of him reading a Bible verse and then talking about nothing. January was "restart", February was "renew." This seems like something he can't avoid talking about.
I've thought about that for a while. I stay mostly because they pay me. I sing and drum for the choir, play handbells when they need it, and I really like the music director. I'll be moving in the Fall, and figure that'll be my time to explore denominations that are a better fit. I'll listen to Billy Graham in the meanwhile.
I definitely will! If this thread is still active I'll reply here. If not, I'll make a new one.
Thank you all!