100% of Zig Forums doesn't own guns.
Why should I listen to them?
Anyone active over at Zig Forums?
Cameron Cook
William Johnson
Imagine being this wrong. Hitler loosened gun laws greatly for the vast majority of the populace. Those strict laws were passed by leftist politicians during the Weimar Era.
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It's socialist regimes that gun-grab the most. You faggots circlejerk over the Marx quote advocating the workers be armed for the revolution. He doesn't utter a word about those private guns post-revolution. Lenin wrote the same exact think in 1914-15. The workers needed to be armed and form militias to succeed in revolutionary attempts. The first thing he did after gaining power was confiscating privately owned guns from the vast majority of the populace and implementing extremely strict laws on ownership. Same with Mao, Casto, Kim Jong il, etc.
No socialist nation has never had liberal gun laws on private ownership like what the Nazis implemented. You aren't foolung anyone, faggot.
Henry Stewart
…don't we Leftists believe in Personal Property though
Nicholas Ross
He literally disarmed the jews though. Also he was prepping for war. We never got to see how Hitler's Germany would actually deal with gun ownership. This is because everything he tried failed and he killed himself. Also everyone who supported him was cucked and died miserable deaths as well.
Sebastian Cook
Citation needed
Existing Armed Peasent-Worker Organizations :
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Defunct :
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Bentley Hernandez
Cont.
Venezuela's Peoples Militia
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(Existing)
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(Defunct)
Gun ownership is entirely legal in the Indigenous / Socialist held Provinces of Mexico
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Same with North Syrian Autonomy
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Christian Green
Your first mistake was assuming that we're just carbon copies of Bolshevism, and that we don't acknowledge any problems with what happened and seek to overcome them.
Bolshevism was a product of a particular event in world history (The Russian Revolution). It cannot be extrapolated from completely, as there were many communist movements at the time (Revolutionary Catalonia, other Western Communist movements, etc) that were in strong support of gun rights for workers. Furthermore even without those examples, there's nothing in theory that says you can't have gun rights under a communist economic model. I don't know how you can conclude from Marx's argument the workers must be armed that they must be disarmed at any future point.
Now right-wingers have a history of being anti-gun whenever anti-capitalist elements get guns. Look no further than the National Firearms Act, which limited the ability of armed strikers to challenge the National Guard and police, or Reagan's anti-open carry policies in California to counter the Black Panthers. And your own source shows that Hitler disarmed Jews and other "undesirables" under his reign.
Parker Parker
Jews were less than 1% of the population. Hitler did not need to loosen the gun laws for citizens to wage war. All he had to do was conscript all able-bodied men.
So did communists. Actually it was 1 Nazi dead for every 3 Soviet soldiers.
Top revisionism.
Militia gun ownership organized by the government has NOTHING to do with private gun ownership you utter tool. Look at Cuba's gun laws for PRIVATE ownership you imbecile. They are severely strict. Same for Albania.
Zapatistas cannot even govern Chiapas effectively. Of course they won't grab the guns. They're not in power nor do they have the logistics and manpower to do so. They are a militia fighting the Mexican government.
Rojava is engaged in civil war you moron. People need to be armed because the war is ongoing and they need everybody who is able to fight to do so. What happens if they actually do gain independence and the war ends? They will finally have a government that can dictate social policies and pass laws. You bet your ass they will crack down on privately held weapons outside of military-duty because it's a security threat to their rule.
Let me rephrase the question. No socialist nation has ever had liberal gun laws with regards to PRIVATE gun ownership. Not guns issued to you for use when you are in the military. These are two vastly different things. Private ownership has always been heavily regulated in socialist states.
James Gonzalez
This lasted for three years, and all those three years occured during a civil war. Of course they wouldn't confiscate the guns. They needed all workers armed so the war could be won. The big question is that if Franco was defeated and they secured their independence, what would happen to privately held guns and the policies surrounding the acquistion of them. You cannot claim this proves your point because the entirety of its existence was spent fighting a civil war against an encroaching army, and thus was not stable to consider something like confiscation of private weaponry. It did not have the time and effort to do so, as again they were fighting a civil war.
Progressive liberal.
Reagan is the only example you have in America. This guy was peak neolib faggotry but I will grant you he was a social conservative. I never said that no right wing politician has passed gun laws But on a whole, it's been leftist politicians and parties worldwide who are behind gun control movements. In Switzerland the pro-gun party is the nationalist right-wing one. The leftist parties such as the SP (anti-capitalism is one of their platforms), greens and feminist party shill for gun control endlessly. The recent EU gun ban directivs? Virtually all opposition in parliament came from right-wing nationalist parties. While the communist and socialist parties virtually all voted in favor.
Asher Ross
Well they CAN be but in the case of the SPD in Germany the actual Leftists in the SPD were purged after they split and formed the I-SPD which allied with the KPD against the Main body of the SPD
After the Spartacist Uprising failed the SPD were effectivly Liberal Centrists who Happily allied with the Right to Crush shit like the Ruhr Uprising