Soyuz is still in use today as the best way to get into orbit. The soviet space program pioneered what would become the ISS. Both of them are a pretty fucking big deal. More than anything NASA has accomplished since they """""surpassed""""" the soviets.
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Jonathan Price
Hunter Williams
The complexity of the engines was a big reason for their unreliability. They may have shown good traits but the rocket as a whole was less advanced, having a smaller payload despite its almost identical weight, and being overly complicated due to the inability to make a simpler equivalent. If the Soviets could have made a Saturn V they would have.
Who cares if it's still in use today? That's got nothing to do with the space race. And the ISS is the best statement possible of the lack of ambition in modern spaceflight. Is this all you've got? Like I said, dogmatically pro-Soviet, in the face of all evidence.
Eli Garcia
This entire post is bullshit debunked by this alone:
>russianspaceweb.com
The only thing convenient here, is your bullshitting What is the definition of the 'end of the line"?
Nope, they kept up, until the 80s, when the whole collaboration thing started. Even today, the USA uses the SOVIET made Soyuz rockets over its own and the SOVIET made space station, with its own modules being just a modification of the ones used by the USSR/Russia.
en.wikipedia.org
Yeah, decades later.
remote controlling a robot to land and return is far more difficult because you lose the signal, you lose the robot, and the robot must be able to land without getting stuck and do a ton of automated things.
That wasn't the reason at all
You literally know nothing about the N1 yet keep asspulling meaningless statements.
- It's first-stage was the most powerful rocket built: raceforspace.co.uk
NK-15/33 Rockets are among the most powerful ever built and their “closed cycle rocket” technology was deemed too hard to perfect by US scientist during the Space Race. They were used for the Luna programme launchers and upon the programme’s cancellation, Soviet authorities ordered to destroy them. However, key people in the project decided to hide them in some obscure warehouse in the USSR. After the fall of the USSR, Americans got news about such rockets and Aerojet (a US company) bought the lot of almost 60 engines.
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- The original goal as cited as a launch vehicle capable of inter-planetary travel to Mars and Venus.
epizodsspace.airbase.ru
Citation needed, even the fucking wiki page doesn't say that.
That isn't a race with the USA, the USA was the one who decided to do the same because they had to show that they were just as inclusive as the USSR.
This bullshit lie again.
This entire statement has no founding, and is based on statements by faggots like you.
>youtube.com
>youtube.com
Two videos that go over the film Time of the Firsts. It then proceeds to point out the lies and goes over the entire story of the Vozhod launch, from the beginning to the end. It was not suicidal nor jerry-rigged. The idea of a space walk in the USSR originated years before the US attempt, and the program started before the US attempt. They managed to test it repeatedly before doing the actual launch to make sure it was safe. Take your wikipedia bullshit elsewhere.
Jordan Roberts
Dogmatically pro-soviet? The only dogmatism here comes from you. The soviet space program never fell behind the west and that is just a fact. You're the only one trying to shift the idea of what matter to better fit in with your view.
Liam Turner
Gemini is a fucking farce. do you really expect me to believe that they stayed up for several days in fucking diapers (which they couldn't replace) and then when they landed, they were walking around like they had been having a stroll down Main street.
>manonmoon.ru
Soyuz is the most reliable system built, and is used today, Gemini is not.
Obviously NASA and every other space program since they use them over their own rockets.
It has everything to do with the space race, becuause, as has been pointed out, it didn't stop at the moon. Soviet engines are still being used for space exploration, and things like Ion Thrusters (created by the USSR) are being looked into as well for the future. The USA's Saturn Vand other designs are not longlived, while the N-1 and other soviet designs continue to be improved and used as the basis for the future of space.
Tyler Morgan
The base soviet rockets, the Soyuz series, hasn’t had a fatal accident since Soyuz 11 in 1971. Their launch escape system has only been used once, for mission 45 in 1983, which is also the only time to date that a launch escape vehicle has been used in any mission with crew on board. Everyone survived. They are now on mission 132. That makes it 111 missions in a row so far without a fatality and only minor issues since 1983.
The USSR pioneered many new ideas and technologies that are now the norm of today.
They also made the first guns designed to fire in space, and fired them too, the USA hasn't even been able to put one in space, let alone fire them.
popsci.com
Soviet Researchers provided a massive portion of what we know of Mars, Venus and other planets today, such as Vladimir Krasnopolsky who discovered Mars' ozone layer as well as the helium and methane content of its atmosphere. Unfortunately after the USSR fell he was displaced to the USA like many other Soviet scientists, unwanted by the new Russian regime
Current NASA uses Russian RD-180 engines and has been for at least a decade. Apparently they can no longer can reach the moon either. Space X has had mediocre success that cannot compete with Russian RD-180s.
Liam Stewart
this is fantastic material; do you have anything about the overarching mission of the soviet space program (what the OP was about)?
Jeremiah Gomez
There is no definite end but the early 70s, when the most ambitious projects were abandoned by both sides, is where it is usually taken to end. It definitely doesn't end before the race to the Moon.
Achieved orbital rendezvous & docking several years after the US, never reached the Moon…
I've already addressed this. Just shows how little you have if these are the big achievements you point to.
Lmao, just lmao. That's why it was achieved years earlier, that's why even the Chinese have managed it. Manned is just hugely more complicated and demanding and if you don't understand that I don't know what to say to you.
The complexity of having loads of small engines was known to be a big reason for the failures. If they could have circumvented that by having fewer, bigger engines, they would have.
And yet the payload was smaller. That power was wasted.
The project had failed to bear fruit so they abandoned it. They gave it until 1974 and then had to stop. I've already given a source in my first post.
It was a fucking stunt. Tereshkova had no relevant experience, she was chosen simply to make a political point.
t. knows nothing about the Voskhod
Not an argument. I don't speak Russian by the way so those videos are no use to me.
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As expected.
Robert Lewis
That's stupid. That would exclude the entire space shuttle program and the Soviet space station programmes, both of which had far longer-lasting legacies than the fucking moon landing did.
Lincoln Nguyen
This is going to be a bother.
Then your statement remains false. the USSR remained on par til the end of the 70s. And was ahead prior.
Uhh, not they achieved that first, regardless, as I said the USSR did not take this whole competition thing seriously.
reached Venus and remain the only ones to have done so, and they reached the moon fine and got plenty of data. Manned or unmanned, it doesn't matter. Manned missions are ridiculous. Also you ignored a massive amount of what I posted on the moon.
Just an example of the data:
>russianspacesystems.ru
No you have not. Just hand-waved it away because it makes your argument moot.
Both have their risks and issues, of equal measure, the difference is in whether human lives are lost or not. Manned expeditions for anything other than actual exploration (instead of just jumping down and then launching back) are retarded. The USSR was being pragmatic, the USA was not.
That is just plain assumption.
Not by that much.
No you didn't, you gave 1 book without any page citations or actual arguments.
She was an amateur skydiver and had to go through an entire program before being launched. She was chosen out of 400 applicants. Her flight went without issue. It was proof that a woman could go into space as equally as a man. That was the point, in a time when, in the USA women were GENUINELY having their careers limited, and were paid less than men for the same amount of work, unlike today. The USA decided to imitate this because they had to show how progressive they were so as to deny this point of progression to the USSR.
TL;DR Yes it was a political point, but it had nothing to do with the Space Race itself and was a proof of Soviet equality. The USA only responded because it had to prevent any pro-soviet sentiment or admiration.
Yes you know nothing about Voskhod. I read the books on it. However I cited the 2 videos because they provide exact excerpts on each accusation you made, namely how it was "jerry-rigged" and how it was "suicidal" When in fact the system was tested multiple times to prevent any accidents, and the only issue was, in the words of Leonov, a slight discomfort in moving around. Something that modern armchair asspullers like you blow into this whole "immobile" schtick, despite the video of the actual space-flight showing none of that.
It's called CC->autotranslate to English.
I said that it would likely be biased if it is recommended by NASA, not that it was. And I said that regardless, it's just spamming a book, I already repeated myself on that point.