Do you have any documented proof of this?
Soviet space program
Levi White
Ryan Anderson
With over 1700 flights since its debut in 1966, the Soyuz is the most frequently used launch vehicle in the world
en.wikipedia.org
Tyler Jones
Not the point. This is about the Space Race, which ended when both sides essentially gave up on further exploration and started trying to do things on the cheap.
I don't know what you think reddit spacing is, newfag. Maybe you mean the typo halfway down which I humbly apologise for.
Apart from the (at least) 5 year period when the main goal of both sides was manned lunar exploration, at which the USSR failed dismally.
No they didn't. Gemini did both first.
Yes they did. If you mean specifically rendezvous/docking, that is absolutely key to more advanced exploration and the USSR did take it seriously. In general they took the 'race' very seriously, to the point of abandoning projects if the Americans did that thing first (e.g. Soyuz 7K-L1)
These really go to the heart of what I'm trying to say. What exactly do you think the subject of the competition between the two sides was? Were they trying to put a man on the Moon? Absolutely yes. Were they trying to produce a craft that would still be used in 2019? Obviously fucking not. This isn't about what we think is best, it's about what they wanted to achieve. The very term 'Space Race' shows the desire to go further and farther. Your focus on stuff like reliability and longevity shows the failure of your side in what actually counted. And as I've already said, the ISS is a testament to the poverty of ambition in modern space flight. The Soviets who engineered the Space Race would be bitterly disappointed by what has come of their technology. They certainly wouldn't be gloating that Soyuz is still in use today, while their dreams of lunar and interplanetary travel remain unfulfilled.
Her flight was not a success. She struggled in comparison with actually qualified pilots.
My point was that you simply dismissed what I was saying about the first multi-cosmonaut flight as 'bullshit'. Voskhod was basically just the one-man Vostok with several people crammed in, not a new design. Meanwhile the Americans were pushing forward with Gemini, a project with an actual long-term vision.
Admittedly an exaggeration but it was not a long-term solution. It was already known that the future of spacewalking was de- and re-pressurisation of the craft, not a cumbersome airlock. They rushed the mission in order to beat the US to the first spacewalk (p469 of the PDF I posted). And Leonov became seriously exhausted in his efforts to get back inside.
Austin Williams
No it isn't, read the OP
Nothing about it being exclusively in the Space Race. Nor is your definition of the Space Race absolute.
I know, you're doing it. I've been here for years back before the Zig Forums split.
Nope, lunar exploration? Sure, manned? Not essentially.
No, I mean the whole competition thing. It didn't matter who had the first air locks, at least, not to the soviets.
The USSR was, that was the main reason they abandoned the N-1. It was perspective, but its lack of reliability at the time made it a pointless venture, as it would be superceded with newer technologies.
That's a false dichotomy. Not to mention that the USA was the one always trying to stick it to the soviets.
Wyatt Lewis
I wasn't responding to the OP, I was originally responding to this post This invalidates much of your post.
This would be reddit spacing. Nobody does your thing of leaving literally no spaces.
Unmanned was over and done with years before the USSR put huge resources into their manned project. And in terms of usefulness, they don't compare. The few grams of randomly selected moon soil samples collected by Soviet probes does not compare with the hundreds of kilos of hand-picked samples returned by the Apollo missions.
That's just ridiculous. I've already given loads of examples of how the competition shaped Soviet priorities. You still haven't addressed the 7K-L1 cancellation.
But you were saying that developing space stations (which are totally dependent on rendezvous and docking) was a major goal of the Soviets.
It's just a zero-gravity lab, like Salyut or Mir. No significant improvement on what was done 40 years ago.
You were talking here about Soviet plans of travelling to Mars.
Pic related.
How was it that much of an improvement from Vostok?
It developed rendezvous and docking. I keep going on about them but they really are that important.
The airlocks used today have far more in common with Gemini than Voskhod. You don't have to depressurise the whole craft but you have to depressurise a module of the craft, not stick a tube on the outside of the craft.
Please do not sage if you want to have a discussion.
Evan Sullivan
Could you faggots please stop writing quote-for-quote? It's a nightmare to read and a terrible way of arguing. If you're gonna have an autism-fight, at least write in fucking paragraphs.
Samuel Wilson
Space isn't real, it was a CIA plot to trick the USSR into wasting valuable resources on a spook.
Adam Morales
This thread however isn't.
There is literally no reason to have ANY spaces, it's the reason Green and Pink text exist. Also, go to any thread and you'll see tons of large posts without spaces.
Hundreds of kilos? LOL also, the initial Apollo mission did not bring back that much.
1 example out of hundreds of various space-related missions.
Yes, but developing a space-station wasn't supposed to be a "haha we did it first". Doing it first was a bonus.
That doesn't make it the example of decay.
That's a technology people are only just figuring out.
Yes, with the fall of the USSR and the re-introduction of capitalism by Gorbachev and Yeltsin, Russian Space travel collapsed
All it says is that she didn't follow some rules and that Yazdovskiy wrote a "hypercritical" report
Compare the internal organization, it's freely available online.
The specific technologies used for that are no longer used today, with that level of argument, the Vozhod's airlock was long-term because airlocks are still used. The technologies in both areas are completely different. Only the concept is the same.
I don't care for this pointless argument, saging because this thread is a dead argument.
No
Adam Nguyen
I'm not the person you're arguing with, but you can't just hand-wave away something like that
Andrew Green
lmao nobodys gunna read all that about your fake made up space hoax